@hollie Now that you mention it that the only thing that would have improved that scene would've been someone dropping a green plastic bowl full of cheez-doodles everywhere.
@randy_s Right?! 😂
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We're all occasionally more like #Masto-don't-ers, am I right :)
@eloquence I agree with your position on AI limits but I'm proposing Limit instead of Suspend because this is what the moderation team applied to one account in this "space" ~ten days ago. Thank you for voting and posting!
The Microsoft Edge team (and in extension the #PWA team at Google Chrome) is looking for feedback on developer preferences when it comes to Web Install:
- declaratively using the `<install>` element (https://github.com/WICG/install-element)
- imperatively using the `navigator.install()` API (https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/MSEdgeExplainers/blob/main/WebInstall%2Fexplainer.md)
You can provide your feedback on the GitHub Issue: https://github.com/WICG/install-element/issues/23.
@tomayac hasn’t WebKit and the WG already stated preference for the declarative install-element?
In #Flancia we'll meet
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@flancian sounds fine to me. I agree that which model being used and where its hosted are important factors that many people are either blind to, or uninterested in. Its a new and complex thing and folks are still figuring out how to identify and categorize it. My advice it to try not to take it personally and continue to point out the differences so people can navigate it better. Maybe a "guide" or article on ethical ai would be timely.
@flancian sounds fine to me. I agree that which model being used and where its hosted are important factors that many people are either blind to, or uninterested in. Its a new and complex thing and folks are still figuring out how to identify and categorize it. My advice it to try not to take it personally and continue to point out the differences so people can navigate it better. Maybe a "guide" or article on ethical ai would be timely.
@axolotl 🙏➕
@icedquinn haha well put, I know what you mean! Social.coop banned a guy because he was trying to do AI in the Fediverse in a useful way essentially; he did say people on Fedi were "fastidious bastards" IIRC, but that's about right of all of us sometimes
@icedquinn this coming roughly speaking from the "we don't care about bridges" department of the coop
@flancian is there anything mastodoner's don't try to federated-ban other than smelling their own farts?
@icedquinn haha well put, I know what you mean! Social.coop banned a guy because he was trying to do AI in the Fediverse in a useful way essentially; he did say people on Fedi were "fastidious bastards" IIRC, but that's about right of all of us sometimes
I’ve often wanted to make an ADHD screening test, written by me and other ADHDers (totally a joke yet also totally real), where you give different scenarios and then options for how things will turn out.
Like, oh, say, this one:
You have an amazing convergence of luck and executive function, and realize that a beloved old friend’s birthday is in three weeks (in case she’s reading this: the friendship is old, not you). In another unusual stroke of luck, you get a card, sign it, even remember to have your husband sign it, find that you have the perfect stamp, and address the envelope.
What happens then? Do you:
A) Put it on your desk, intending to mail it in a few days when it will arrive just in time for her birthday? And then...actually do that?
B) Put it on your desk, intending to mail it in a few days, then forget about it, lose it, find it in six months, mail it, after texting her an awkward yet skillful (thanks to years of practice) apology?
@hollie @actuallyadhd Oh I am sooo seen. Sadly, um, I may have such birthday cards and small gifts scattered around my home. I think in terms of “Next year, I promise, I will send it!”
@axolotl I agree some interference with unethical endeavours might make sense! I just don't like the blanket dismissals because it means we don't look at it on a per-case basis, nor consider the tradeoffs.
For example: I think it's fine-ish to use models from Mistral (French AI), or use some of the already reasonable local models -- in particular if what we *do* with them is prosocial (e.g. create tools that democratize information access for the people, or enable more people to improve their lives in some quantifiable way). And from there we can argue where we draw the line?
@flancian sounds fine to me. I agree that which model being used and where its hosted are important factors that many people are either blind to, or uninterested in. Its a new and complex thing and folks are still figuring out how to identify and categorize it. My advice it to try not to take it personally and continue to point out the differences so people can navigate it better. Maybe a "guide" or article on ethical ai would be timely.
Everyone hilariously sucks at everything they try to do, this feels very realistic
@hollie Now that you mention it that the only thing that would have improved that scene would've been someone dropping a green plastic bowl full of cheez-doodles everywhere.
Started a [[pulse check]] on how we want to treat #Fediverse accounts that develop or use AI, pending consent mechanisms.
I recommend we limit if necessary (when reported) but do not suspend. This allows people to inform their consent or dissent while leaving both options on the table for others.
@flancian is there anything mastodoner's don't try to federated-ban other than smelling their own farts?
Started a [[pulse check]] on how we want to treat #Fediverse accounts that develop or use AI, pending consent mechanisms.
I recommend we limit if necessary (when reported) but do not suspend. This allows people to inform their consent or dissent while leaving both options on the table for others.
RE: https://social.coop/@flancian/116370396868008389
#SocialCoop please vote if you can! Thank you!
#SocialCoop please vote on @ntnsndr's https://www.loomio.com/p/Uv5P2uAw/testing-a-narrower-frame-for-the-discussion when you can!
Started a [[pulse check]] on how we want to treat #Fediverse accounts that develop or use AI, pending consent mechanisms.
I recommend we limit if necessary (when reported) but do not suspend. This allows people to inform their consent or dissent while leaving both options on the table for others.
I’m losing my patience with #Outlander and might skip to the final season. At a certain age one begins to value their time enough to commit such acts of television blasphemy. See also: if you aren’t enjoying the book, put it down (or skim to the end and then put it down).
Besides the more serious annoyances (like SA content that happens more than I can tolerate) the time travel problems are really getting to me. Like are you just using time travel as a flimsy framework to hold all the boffing? Because that’s what it feels lik - oh. Well. 🤔 Yes that does make sense.
@hollie I'm a big fan of skipping to the end of things as needed! Life is short and art is long. Sometimes, too long. 😂
@flancian but if its a choice that supports and feeds techo-fascism/feudalism (ie the widespread theft of work and water by the worst corporations in the world, wholesale environmental destruction by datacenters that poison communities, the creation of a gigantic economic bubble that hurts computation world wide (wait till it pops!), etc, etc, etc) some interference is a good thing.
@axolotl I agree some interference with unethical endeavours might make sense! I just don't like the blanket dismissals because it means we don't look at it on a per-case basis, nor consider the tradeoffs.
For example: I think it's fine-ish to use models from Mistral (French AI), or use some of the already reasonable local models -- in particular if what we *do* with them is prosocial (e.g. create tools that democratize information access for the people, or enable more people to improve their lives in some quantifiable way). And from there we can argue where we draw the line?
There is so much snark in the #Fediverse about [[vibe coding]] that you just know people are scared and/or salty.
It is just weird to me that people feel this confident about what's right and allow themselves to be freely and widely dismissive of other people's computing needs and patterns. Why can't we each do what we need and prefer, and respect each other's choices without dismissal and interference?
@flancian but if its a choice that supports and feeds techo-fascism/feudalism (ie the widespread theft of work and water by the worst corporations in the world, wholesale environmental destruction by datacenters that poison communities, the creation of a gigantic economic bubble that hurts computation world wide (wait till it pops!), etc, etc, etc) some interference is a good thing.
In a very serious scientific study, it turns out that dogs like treats.
@rye I am also happy to sign up for this science (assuming the treats are species-specific)