@flancian but if its a choice that supports and feeds techo-fascism/feudalism (ie the widespread theft of work and water by the worst corporations in the world, wholesale environmental destruction by datacenters that poison communities, the creation of a gigantic economic bubble that hurts computation world wide (wait till it pops!), etc, etc, etc) some interference is a good thing.
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@flancian but if its a choice that supports and feeds techo-fascism/feudalism (ie the widespread theft of work and water by the worst corporations in the world, wholesale environmental destruction by datacenters that poison communities, the creation of a gigantic economic bubble that hurts computation world wide (wait till it pops!), etc, etc, etc) some interference is a good thing.
@axolotl I agree some interference with unethical endeavours might make sense! I just don't like the blanket dismissals because it means we don't look at it on a per-case basis, nor consider the tradeoffs.
For example: I think it's fine-ish to use models from Mistral (French AI), or use some of the already reasonable local models -- in particular if what we *do* with them is prosocial (e.g. create tools that democratize information access for the people, or enable more people to improve their lives in some quantifiable way). And from there we can argue where we draw the line?
@flancian sounds fine to me. I agree that which model being used and where its hosted are important factors that many people are either blind to, or uninterested in. Its a new and complex thing and folks are still figuring out how to identify and categorize it. My advice it to try not to take it personally and continue to point out the differences so people can navigate it better. Maybe a "guide" or article on ethical ai would be timely.
@axolotl also, what about using AI for the revolution? Why should we *all* leave AI discourse setting to capitalists and status-quo-enjoyers? Why shouldn't some people explore more optimistic paths if they can afford them and have the time? Etc. :)