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Started a [[pulse check]] on how we want to treat #Fediverse accounts that develop or use AI, pending consent mechanisms.
I recommend we limit if necessary (when reported) but do not suspend. This allows people to inform their consent or dissent while leaving both options on the table for others.
RE: https://social.coop/@flancian/116370396868008389
#SocialCoop please vote if you can! Thank you!
#SocialCoop please vote on @ntnsndr's https://www.loomio.com/p/Uv5P2uAw/testing-a-narrower-frame-for-the-discussion when you can!
Started a [[pulse check]] on how we want to treat #Fediverse accounts that develop or use AI, pending consent mechanisms.
I recommend we limit if necessary (when reported) but do not suspend. This allows people to inform their consent or dissent while leaving both options on the table for others.
I’m losing my patience with #Outlander and might skip to the final season. At a certain age one begins to value their time enough to commit such acts of television blasphemy. See also: if you aren’t enjoying the book, put it down (or skim to the end and then put it down).
Besides the more serious annoyances (like SA content that happens more than I can tolerate) the time travel problems are really getting to me. Like are you just using time travel as a flimsy framework to hold all the boffing? Because that’s what it feels lik - oh. Well. 🤔 Yes that does make sense.
@hollie I'm a big fan of skipping to the end of things as needed! Life is short and art is long. Sometimes, too long. 😂
@axolotl I agree some interference with unethical endeavours might make sense! I just don't like the blanket dismissals because it means we don't look at it on a per-case basis, nor consider the tradeoffs.
For example: I think it's fine-ish to use models from Mistral (French AI), or use some of the already reasonable local models -- in particular if what we *do* with them is prosocial (e.g. create tools that democratize information access for the people, or enable more people to improve their lives in some quantifiable way). And from there we can argue where we draw the line?
@axolotl also, what about using AI for the revolution? Why should we *all* leave AI discourse setting to capitalists and status-quo-enjoyers? Why shouldn't some people explore more optimistic paths if they can afford them and have the time? Etc. :)
@flancian but if its a choice that supports and feeds techo-fascism/feudalism (ie the widespread theft of work and water by the worst corporations in the world, wholesale environmental destruction by datacenters that poison communities, the creation of a gigantic economic bubble that hurts computation world wide (wait till it pops!), etc, etc, etc) some interference is a good thing.
@axolotl I agree some interference with unethical endeavours might make sense! I just don't like the blanket dismissals because it means we don't look at it on a per-case basis, nor consider the tradeoffs.
For example: I think it's fine-ish to use models from Mistral (French AI), or use some of the already reasonable local models -- in particular if what we *do* with them is prosocial (e.g. create tools that democratize information access for the people, or enable more people to improve their lives in some quantifiable way). And from there we can argue where we draw the line?
There is so much snark in the #Fediverse about [[vibe coding]] that you just know people are scared and/or salty.
It is just weird to me that people feel this confident about what's right and allow themselves to be freely and widely dismissive of other people's computing needs and patterns. Why can't we each do what we need and prefer, and respect each other's choices without dismissal and interference?
@flancian but if its a choice that supports and feeds techo-fascism/feudalism (ie the widespread theft of work and water by the worst corporations in the world, wholesale environmental destruction by datacenters that poison communities, the creation of a gigantic economic bubble that hurts computation world wide (wait till it pops!), etc, etc, etc) some interference is a good thing.
In a very serious scientific study, it turns out that dogs like treats.
@rye I am also happy to sign up for this science (assuming the treats are species-specific)
@hollie I assure you that you are, it's literally just a website. You plug the device and click install!
@joel I've got one in my cart...
I'm watching one more YouTube video. ☺️
(Seriously just imagining the ability to have it with my little TN, and take notes on what I'm reading on the go, it's intoxicating)
In a very serious scientific study, it turns out that dogs like treats.
@joel Cool cool!
I wonder if I'm techie enough to add CrossPoint. Will investigate.
@hollie I assure you that you are, it's literally just a website. You plug the device and click install!
@hollie crosspoint and other firmware come with a battery indicator, the comparison is probably the stock OS
Yes the clock is not present at least in vanilla CrossPoint which I use
@joel Cool cool!
I wonder if I'm techie enough to add CrossPoint. Will investigate.
@joel Hey Joel the comparison chart on the website says that the X4 does NOT have a clock or battery indicator. I can forgive the clock but a device lacking a battery indicator feels like it'd be an issue for me. How has that been for you, do you notice it, do you mind?
@hollie crosspoint and other firmware come with a battery indicator, the comparison is probably the stock OS
Yes the clock is not present at least in vanilla CrossPoint which I use
@joel <clicks on the YouTube video link>
It fits inside a passport size Traveler's Notebook?
I'm swooning a little.
@joel Hey Joel the comparison chart on the website says that the X4 does NOT have a clock or battery indicator. I can forgive the clock but a device lacking a battery indicator feels like it'd be an issue for me. How has that been for you, do you notice it, do you mind?
In other news #SocialCoop mods #suspended an account I want to talk to (and is not a Nazi or clear troll or anything that we have voted is bannable), and asked me to wait more than three weeks before they discuss my appeal and consider moving the account to just limit as I suggested (a corrective action with no downsides as I see it). 44 people out of 1.4k monthly actives are following them and might lose the connection if the suspend is not lifted by end of this month.
IMHO this is not ideal and we should collectively do better. I can't honestly recommend Social.Coop to people anymore until moderation practices improve in response times, transparency and alignment with voted policies.
I plan to update this thread as more comes to pass.
I am disappointed with current Social.coop moderation practices, and would like to see us improve. I hope the mod team does the right thing at the end of this delay or hopefully earlier, and moves to a more transparent model for how they moderate using destructive actions in particular.
RE: https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:hdvysbmehiwc5pfwaghicflu/post/3miypb4bfy5o2
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In other news #SocialCoop mods #suspended an account I want to talk to (and is not a Nazi or clear troll or anything that we have voted is bannable), and asked me to wait more than three weeks before they discuss my appeal and consider moving the account to just limit as I suggested (a corrective action with no downsides as I see it). 44 people out of 1.4k monthly actives are following them and might lose the connection if the suspend is not lifted by end of this month.
IMHO this is not ideal and we should collectively do better. I can't honestly recommend Social.Coop to people anymore until moderation practices improve in response times, transparency and alignment with voted policies.
I plan to update this thread as more comes to pass.
I am disappointed with current Social.coop moderation practices, and would like to see us improve. I hope the mod team does the right thing at the end of this delay or hopefully earlier, and moves to a more transparent model for how they moderate using destructive actions in particular.
RE: https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:hdvysbmehiwc5pfwaghicflu/post/3miypb4bfy5o2
social.coop
On 20 May, #Amazon will cut off #Kindle reading tablets manufactured as recently as 2012 from the Kindle Store. You can still read the books that sit on your device. But if you have to factory reset it, they disappear. You get a discount to buy a new Kindle and retain access.
My Kindle is from 2015, so I guess it'll be cut off in 2029. Amazon just lost me as an e-book customer. I quit buying material things from them years ago.
In other news #SocialCoop mods #suspended an account I want to talk to (and is not a Nazi or clear troll or anything that we have voted is bannable), and asked me to wait more than three weeks before they discuss my appeal and consider moving the account to just limit as I suggested (a corrective action with no downsides as I see it). 44 people out of 1.4k monthly actives are following them and might lose the connection if the suspend is not lifted by end of this month.
IMHO this is not ideal and we should collectively do better. I can't honestly recommend Social.Coop to people anymore until moderation practices improve in response times, transparency and alignment with voted policies.
I plan to update this thread as more comes to pass.
In the meantime I plan to move my main posting to Bluesky or some other Fediverse account and cross-post from there. For all its downsides, Bluesky so far lets me talk to the people I want to talk to and the one time I filed an appeal to a policy humans actually responded to it in a timely manner and were not dismissive of my request.
In other news #SocialCoop mods #suspended an account I want to talk to (and is not a Nazi or clear troll or anything that we have voted is bannable), and asked me to wait more than three weeks before they discuss my appeal and consider moving the account to just limit as I suggested (a corrective action with no downsides as I see it). 44 people out of 1.4k monthly actives are following them and might lose the connection if the suspend is not lifted by end of this month.
IMHO this is not ideal and we should collectively do better. I can't honestly recommend Social.Coop to people anymore until moderation practices improve in response times, transparency and alignment with voted policies.
I plan to update this thread as more comes to pass.
i feel bad constantly fixating on the informational capitalists while there is so much material harm being done in the world, and then simultaneously remind myself that this is literally capitalism's gamble to finally and fully enclose not only the material world but also our minds. If informational reality comes to be owned by 4 megacorporations, then it's all fascism forever baby.
