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@flancian@social.coop  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

RE: https://mastodon.social/@Mastodon/116374920911865361

[[Collections]] are coming with Mastodon 4.6, with a limit of 25 accounts initially.

You have to click on each account individually because Mastodon considers "follow all" a dark pattern.

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@dash@social.coop  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@flancian The entire point of the phrase "tech bro" is that the people it refers to are not just invariably men, but also men from a culture for whom the word "bro" makes a good descriptor.

Show me a load of women and NB folks from diverse social backgrounds getting tons of VC money thrown at them to force their dumb ideas on everyone and I might concede we need to rethink the term.

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@flancian@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 hours ago

@dash https://siliconvalley.center/blog/female-leaders-of-silicon-valley-2025 maybe? It was a joke but I do think that it's not only men, there's way fewer but still significant amounts of women in startup/tech land. So why not be inclusive by default? :)

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@Mastodon@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

We’re ready to show you a new feature coming in Mastodon 4.6 - Collections. These are a way for people on Mastodon to curate and share bundles of accounts that they’d recommend to others, to help find connections and grow their network more quickly.

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@flancian@social.coop  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

"These tech bros..."

Metaphorical SLAP

Let's use [[tech siblings]]

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@dash@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 4 hours ago

@flancian The entire point of the phrase "tech bro" is that the people it refers to are not just invariably men, but also men from a culture for whom the word "bro" makes a good descriptor.

Show me a load of women and NB folks from diverse social backgrounds getting tons of VC money thrown at them to force their dumb ideas on everyone and I might concede we need to rethink the term.

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@bhaugen@social.coop  ·  activity timestamp 16 hours ago

@flancian
> I am reconsidering my engagement with Social.coop given recent and not so recent events and in particular the negative reactions to my work from other people.

I hope you still stay engaged. I like your work.

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@flancian@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 hours ago

@bhaugen thank you Bob, I appreciate that a lot and your message came as much needed support in a relatively difficult time (I'm sick, overloaded at work and dealing with some degree of conflict in the coop). I hope your personal life, Mikorizal and your experiments with Valueflow are going well!

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@Matt_Noyes@social.coop  ·  activity timestamp 16 hours ago

@flancian I appreciate the dialogue and enjoy working with you. I appreciate the time you have put in to building social.coop both on the tech side and the community side. I find myself on the opposite side of many questions, like threads, bluesky, and now zeitgeist, but that comes with the unique territory we are in as people working in this alternative space. I do have a deep concern and protective feeling toward people on the working groups, especially the CWG because I know the emotional labor involved and know that the people doing the work are human beings dealing with all the stuff that being human involves. So I want to see them treated not as faceless "mods" but as our kin, our comrades, our selves.

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@flancian@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 hours ago

@Matt_Noyes I agree that is the ideal! My apologies for any time I have fallen short of that. But being in a group with power (to silence, to sever, to banish) comes with responsibilities, and I believe constructively criticizing such a group and their actions should be allowed and perhaps encouraged.

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@django@social.coop  ·  activity timestamp 22 hours ago

@tomayac hasn’t WebKit and the WG already stated preference for the declarative install-element?

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@tomayac@toot.cafe replied  ·  activity timestamp 6 hours ago

@django Somewhat, yes, but this doesn't mean that there couldn't be an additional imperative way, maybe in the worst case limited to Chromium browsers.

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@flancian@social.coop  ·  activity timestamp 6 hours ago

Imagine if priests, monks and nuns went around being salty and dismissive of the general population because they are not celibate like them.

That's representative of way too many [[AI celibates]] in the #Fediverse as of the time of writing.

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@flancian@social.coop  ·  activity timestamp 6 hours ago

I respect [[AI celibates]] and their life choices and I expect the same in return. Instead, all too often I just see aggression towards AI optimism.

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@flancian@social.coop  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

"These tech bros..."

Metaphorical SLAP

Let's use [[tech siblings]]

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@flancian@social.coop  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

It's only true passion for diversity and inclusion if you also do it for groups that you don't always agree or identify with.

If not, it's just sparkling tribalism.

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@flancian@social.coop  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

[[Coop AI]]:
https://infosec.exchange/@n_dimension/115621429575051565

Inference only I think? But nice idea, I think we'll have lots of these projects in the future.

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@n_dimension@infosec.exchange  ·  activity timestamp 4 months ago

Do you hate #broligarchs?
#Billionaires? #AiSlop but still think there is merit in #AI?

Here is my proposal for a stand alone.
OFFGRID COMMUNITY AI SYSTEM.

That's right.Your very own co-op AI

The calculations are very much back of the envelope, first cut, but quite feasible.
A 32billion parameters, frontier level performance compatable open source #llm model. The power requirements is that of 3AC units including cooling. Serves 15-20 concurrent users. 40 households of 4 people each (taking into account actual AI model distributed use metrics and contention ratios)

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Sketch of a community, stand alone, co-op #AI #llm system
Sketch of a community, stand alone, co-op #AI #llm system
Sketch of a community, stand alone, co-op #AI #llm system
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@flancian@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@n_dimension nice! To be clear are you suggesting running inference here? If so, which models would be used? If not, how do you plan to train?

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@flancian@social.coop  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@django thank you for reaching out, Django! And thank you for getting the discussion started by reporting the account; I think that went well, and several things actually did, even though overall my feeling (as evidenced by the thread in Zulip and the above post) is still of frustration because of not feeling seen or considered enough.

My main frustration with the process, if I pin it down, is the fact that the group repeatedly ignored my proposal to move the account to a limit to allow people to still interact with the account if they want it *and* defuse the risky situation (the removal of follow relationships) at no obvious safety cost to anyone else while the CWG took all the time you need for deliberation. To insist on suspend after I made the points I made for limit, without actually acknowledging them, felt like being deliberately ignored. I also didn't like the fact that people *did* take the time to dismiss my concerns without substance.

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@flancian@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@django TLDR: this shouldn't have been a suspend but a limit, and the fact that the CWG refused to change this while I wait ~3 weeks for you to meet (fair; I'm not part of the group to determine your meeting cadence) shows, the way I perceived it, a lack of care and concern for what people in the "outgroup" think, feel and need.

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@django@social.coop  ·  activity timestamp 12 hours ago

hey @flancian I made the original report with the intent that we discuss the issues and potential threat as CWG Ops, and with the members at wide.

The process wasn’t how I imagined it would go, and despite us having opposing views on the matter, I’m glad you have been active in bringing the discussion to this point.

Currently, it seems like a number of the “Could be better” responses actually support your position but are asking for a more clear proposal.

I understand your frustration with the speed of things, but ultimately I think this is worth taking the time to deliberate, this technology was simply not a consideration the last time we revised our policies

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@flancian@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@django thank you for reaching out, Django! And thank you for getting the discussion started by reporting the account; I think that went well, and several things actually did, even though overall my feeling (as evidenced by the thread in Zulip and the above post) is still of frustration because of not feeling seen or considered enough.

My main frustration with the process, if I pin it down, is the fact that the group repeatedly ignored my proposal to move the account to a limit to allow people to still interact with the account if they want it *and* defuse the risky situation (the removal of follow relationships) at no obvious safety cost to anyone else while the CWG took all the time you need for deliberation. To insist on suspend after I made the points I made for limit, without actually acknowledging them, felt like being deliberately ignored. I also didn't like the fact that people *did* take the time to dismiss my concerns without substance.

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@notsoloud@expressional.social  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@flancian
There definitely was an Arabic colonial expansion, but there's no point litigating it 1300 years later.

Alternatively, decolonize Scania from the Swedes, Essex from the Saxons, Etruria from the Romans, Early European Farmer territory from the Steppe Herders, Hunter/gatherer lands from Early European Farmers, Neanderthal caves from Homo Sapiens Sapiens.

Where is there one acre of land that isn't somehow stolen?

Let's acknowledge the past and do better today.

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@flancian@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 hours ago

@notsoloud I agree, but my answer here is 'Both' actually.

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@flancian@social.coop  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@notsoloud I thought it did, thanks! What's missing from the map? Looking

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@notsoloud@expressional.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@flancian
Israeli settlements in the West Bank. Israeli controlled areas of Gaza. Areas of Gaza where Palestinians are not allowed. And all the roads and walls and check points in the West Bank. You should probably ask people driving in the area (on the Palestinian side) about this, but I doubt it's de facto a contiguous territory like on the map.

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@notsoloud@expressional.social  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@flancian
There definitely was an Arabic colonial expansion, but there's no point litigating it 1300 years later.

Alternatively, decolonize Scania from the Swedes, Essex from the Saxons, Etruria from the Romans, Early European Farmer territory from the Steppe Herders, Hunter/gatherer lands from Early European Farmers, Neanderthal caves from Homo Sapiens Sapiens.

Where is there one acre of land that isn't somehow stolen?

Let's acknowledge the past and do better today.

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@notsoloud@expressional.social  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@flancian
Things would be a lot better if the second map actually represented reality.

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@flancian@social.coop replied  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

@notsoloud I thought it did, thanks! What's missing from the map? Looking

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@flancian@social.coop  ·  activity timestamp 8 hours ago

My hypothesis is that Jesus was high on mushrooms and/or cannabis for at least a few of the episodes in the new testament. I'm not sure about Mohammed. They might also just have had some neurological conditions that manifested as revelations.

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